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accused wikileaks informant, bradley manning. the question is, who is this enemy of america? is it julian assange? and decision day. the most closely guarded secret in the world could soon be revealed. which dress will kate middleton choose for her royal trip down the aisle? we begin with breaking news on libya this hour. from washington, president obama, in a news conference a short time ago, the president laid out white house strategy, part diplomatic, part military, part humanitarian. the latest on u.s. efforts to pressure colonel gadhafi, the libyan leader. >> we will continue to send a clear message, the violence must stop. moammar gadhafi has lost ledge get ma si to lead, and he must leave.
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those who perpetrate violence against libyan people will be held accountable. >> as for use of force, here's what the president said on that. >> with respect to our willingness to engage militarily, what i've instructed the department of defense, as well as our state department and all of those who are involved in international affairs to examine, is a full range of options. i don't want us hamstrung. >> back in eastern libya, gadhafi forces intensified aerial attacks, hitting the city of brega again. it's the second day of a counterattack against the rebels there. brega being a key port for oil installations. government forces still hold the capital, tripoli, and current gadhafi remains defiant, protected by his forces on the ground. on the western border of libya, though, an evolving humanitarian nightmare. tens of thousands of refugees
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trying to flee into tunisia. the u.s. is now sending military planes to the area, with food, water and relief supplies. joining me live from benghazi, in libya, nbc's stephanie gosk. good evening, stephanie. >> reporter: good evening, martin. you know the battle continues here in eastern libya. this is gadhafi taking the fight back to the rebels who secures the area for more than a week. he's specifically going after the oil, that town of brega has the second largest oil facility in libya. it has been controlled in the last week by rebel forces. but early on wednesday morning, gadhafi forces, a number of suvs with mounted machine guns, they were made up of militia as well, as some libyan military members, attacked that oil facility and took the rebels by surprise. there's video of a fierce gunfight in the san dunes overlooking the mediterranean where they exchanged firefights back and forth throughout the
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day. rebel forces were able to take back the oil facility by the end and push gadhafi's forces out of the town. but we were there today, and we were talking to some of the rebels that took part in that fight, and they said, yes, they did push them out but they think those forces are regrooping, they're rearming themselves and going to come back in greater numbers. the rebels, on their part, are doing the very same thing. they're bringing in more guns. they're bringing in more fighters. many coming from this city of benghazi, where they were constricted in the military. these are young men with very little military experience and a lot of weapons. martin? >> stephanie gosk in benghazi, thank you very much, indeed. joining me live now for a discussion on the implications for the region is a professor of international relations of the middle east at the london school of economics. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> earlier today, troops loyal to gadhafi bombed two key towns
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in the east of the country. is this quickly now becoming a civil war? >> well i would not go that far. i would say it's becoming a protracted fight. there is a stand-off between gadhafi's loyalists and the opposition. and this is really good news for gadhafi. remember, a few days ago, we were talking about gadhafi's numbers, now gadhafi seems to have basically absorbed the first shock. he's consolidating forces. he's even going on the offensive. we're talking about gadhafi forces attacking the eastern parts of the country, which is under the control of the opposition. this is the reality now, the political and the strategic reality has shifted. every day that gadhafi remains in libya, every day that he survives, is a horrible day for libya and libyans. but the reality is, gadhafi now is consolidated. he has a limited base of support
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but potent limited base of support. the opposition is incohesive, incoherent, is not as well coordinated as the gadhafi loyalists and that's why the strategic situation has shifted dramatically in the last 48 hours. >> you describe a horrendous situation. is it absolutely imperative that the international community do something like impose a no-fly zone across the country? >> you know, martin, i think the international community, and in particular western powers, are in a bind between iraq and a hard place. the rock of gadhafi's will to fight and kill libyans. to use all power, massive power, brute force, in order to survive, to remain as the one man ruler of libya. and a harder place, that is western military intervention is counterprodu productive. what gadhafi wants to do is
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shift the fight from being a fight between the libyans and his own authoritarian rule and one between gadhafi and the west. that's why putting western boots on the ground is very counterproductive, but i will argue, imposing a no-fly zone would be wonderful because it would prevent gadhafi from using his helicopters and fighter jets to hammer away at the opposition. the west has to be very careful, very cautious, not to provide a justification for gadhafi to use like he is fighting western imperialism and american forces, and that's why you see the west moving very slowly and gradually and sending right messages for libyans, in particular. >> but the secretary of defense, robert gates, has already explained -- he did so yesterday -- imposing a no-fly zone would necessarily require an attack on libya to destroy things like air defenses. who wants an american invasion of libya? >> you're absolutely correct. remember, there is a great deal of opposition to any kind of
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american intervention, not just in the arab world. the arab league came out today and said we oppose american intervention, military intervention in libya. even the opposition inside libya is divided on the nature and character of western intervention. i would like the united states and the western powers to exert more pressure on gadhafi to freeze his assets, to deploy forces near libya, to complete the encirclement of gadhafi and to be prepared, just in case gadhafi escalates fight against his people. at the end of the day, this is an internal fight. this is a struggle by the majority of libyans against this dictator who has ruled libya for the last 42 years by blood and iron. west and the international community and we americans must provide moral support, even logistical support, guidance for the opposition. but what we must refrain from putting western boots on the
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ground, we must refrain from giving gadhafi a justification to say that he is fighting the west and he's not fighting his people. gadhafi now is fighting the entire population of libya, and we must not lose sight of this particular nature of struggle in the country. >> very briefly, we know through bitter experience with saddam hussein that political dictators feel no compunction about doing things like damaging their own oil installations. do you think gadhafi will behave likewise, he might damage the oil reserves there? and what would that do to the pri priest of oil? >> martin i have no doubt in my mind that gadhafi would basically bring the temple on his head and libyans if he knows that he's done. this is a very nasty, violent man. he doesn't care about human life. my take on it is that at this particular moment, he is in a very relaxed position. in particular, in the last 48
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hours. he has consolidated his forces. his limited base of support is very solid. in fact he's now seems to be -- he has regains the initiative, but if the situation escalates, if he destroys the oil installations in libya, this would be a disaster for libya. remember, the oil sources are the property of the libyan people. i don't -- you cannot -- you cannot dispolimiss any option because gadhafi is doing whatever it takes, not only to survive and remain in power, but even to inflict a great deal of damage on libya and libyan people. >> thank you. one more item on libya that might offer perspective. take a look at this map. a host of cities and areas in the east reportedly held by the rebels, including that town of brega. to the west, the capital of tripoli still in the hadn'ts of gadhafi and lolists. in between a stretch of land where gadhafi reportedly has
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tribal support. when we come back, the new charges filed against accused wikileaks informant, bradley manning. but would the proposed punishment fit the crime? and is he in or is he out? is newt gingrich about to become the first republican to declare for 2012? what can you do with plain mashed potatoes? when you pour chunky beef with country vegetable soup over it, you can do dinner. 4 minutes, around 4 bucks. campbell's chunky. it's amazing what soup can do.™ to london starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol now, and maybe up to 8 in a day. or...choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. enjoy the flight.
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he copied a computer database of more than 250,000 diplomatic cables, and now, if convicted, he'll spend the rest of his life in prison. that could be the fate that now awaits private bradley manning, the military intelligence analyst who served that entire
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database to wikileaks. chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski joins us from washington. good afternoon, mik. >> reporter: good afternoon. welcome aboard. >> great to be with you. the army has announced additional 22 charges and these include, i quote, aiding the enemy, for which the death penalty is available. and some believe he's guilty of treason. so could he receive the death penalty? >> reporter: well, martin, in the army, the aiding the enemy charge is as close to treason as they can possibly get. the prosecutors who filed these charges point out that he could, if convicted, manning could either get a life sentence or be sentenced to death. the prosecutors recommend a life sentence. however that determination will have to be made by the convening authority who would essentially be the military judge in any court-martial that manning will face. >> private manning has been incarcerated since july. why has it taken so long to bring these charges? and has the military, in a sense, been waiting to see which
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cables would be leaked and taylor the charges, according to that? >> well, military officials claim that the delay in all of these charges was the result of a request by the defense attorneys to subject bradley manning to some kind of mental competency hearing. but quite frankly, as long as it did take, and in fact, it almost makes sense, although nobody has said this, to wait to see exactly what wikileaks would have distributed. >> jim miklaszewski, at the pentagon, thanks so much. i'm joined by jane hampshire, and david house, a personal friend of private manning. good afternoon to both of you. >> good afternoon. >> good to be here. >> david, how is bradley manning doing? because i understand that, since january, his health has declined. >> yes. i visited bradley in the quantico bringing at the end of january and he appears cat atonic during that meeting. he had severe problems
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communicating, have any social engagement at all. >> sorry, david. did you say cat atonic? >> yes. at the end of january, he just had severe problems communicating. it was almost like he just woken up and he was unfamiliar with what was going on, and it took actually about 45 minutes of talking to him before i actually could get him engages in the conversation. going into february, his condition -- he seemed to improve slightly emotionally, but he still has the appearance and demeanor of a man who has been in solitary confinement for eight months. utterly exhausted, physically and mentally. i think the conditions he's been held under are meant to crack him open, ahead of his trial. >> do you sense any note of regret what he's did, now that he's had almost nine months to reflect upon this from a jail cell. is he remorseful? >> we don't talk about aspects of the case when i visit him in quantico. but i get no sense of -- i get no sense of remorse from him
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when we do communicate. i don't see that at all, no. >> jane, the charges that are set out against private manning say that, quote, he introduced unauthorized software on to government computers and transmitted the classified data for use by the enemy. there's also this reference to knowing that it would be accessible to the enemy. so who is the enemy? >> i think that's a really good question. i would hope that jim miklaszewski and other people in contact with the pentagon, jeff mo morel ask the question. if the enemy's al qaeda and they're saying he transmitted something with the intention it would be put on the internet and al qaeda saw it, is that any different than what the new york times or any other organization does when they put information on the internet? seriously what i think they're saying what it's implied, is there's a new charge here in the sheet in that he released the ngic report, that he transmitted that to wikileaks and the ngic
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report is an army intelligence report that identifies wikileaks has a danger to the u.s. military. in that report it says, it must be presumed that foreigne adversaries will review and assess department of defense sensitive or classified information posted to the wikileaks website. so it look likes what they're saying is that wikileaks is in fact the enemy and bradley manning leaks a document to wikileaks, identifying them as a threat to u.s. forces. >> is julian assange the enemy, then? if we're going to personify the enemy, it's not a computer website, is it julian assange? >> that would be a good thing to know, because i think it would be news. and jeff moral should say if that are charging bradley manning with information of leaking information to julian assange, the enemy. >> wikileaks fired back with a response on twitter saying it was a vindictive attack on manning for exercising his right to silence. but can you understand the i ronnie of such a statement? here's an individual who wants the world to know about 250,000 secrets but then doesn't want to say a word himself? >> well, there's a difference
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between government secrecy and personal privacy. you've got the government saying one thing happened in the collateral murder video, in that incident and the collateral murder video proving something happen that's different. americans have the right to know things. but personal privacy should not be impinged upon. julian assange is right, people have a right to know that. >> you were saying bradley m mannima manning is cat atonic. do you think he's being subjected to drug therapy? >> i'm not sure. he's been on antidepressants while in the confinement at quantico. but i am not sure if these are against his will or not. i have no information on that. >> but in terms of his condition, you must be extremely concerned. you've seen him. >> absolutely. it's like watching a friend become very ill over a series of months. i've watched bradley manning transform from a bright-eyed young man in september to state he's in now. and for me, this is very
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difficult to watch my government do this to one of my very good friends. it's very hard to watch. and it's very hard to see this man's due process become infringed upon ahead of his trial. this emotional trauma he's undergoing, i don't think this is -- i don't think this is how a government should treat an alleges whistle-blower. >> david house and jane hamshire, thank you. when we come back, the million dollar question and a surprising look at who americans think can bear more of the burden for our financial future. and -- come on, guys, we can work it out, can't we? the clock is ticking on an nfl lockout. ben and his family live on this block. ben's a re/max agent, and he's a big part of this community. re/max agents know their markets, and they care enough to get to know you, too. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit today. [ male announcer ] not sure what to take?
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welcome back. let's head out to the newsroom where veronica della kruse is following a number of stories. >> the wisconsin budget stand-off, 14 democratic
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senators have until 5:00 p.m. eastern to return to the capitol, or else. this afternoon, the wisconsin senate passed a resolution ordering their arrest if they don't come back to vote by this evening. the lawmakers left the state two weeks ago to avoid a vote on governor scott walker's budget bill. it strips public employees of collective bargaining rights and the dems want to negotiate. senators could only be take noon custody if they return to wisconsin u.s. benefit claims plunged to a three-year low. the numbers dropped for the third time in four weeks. this time, dropping by 20,000. analysts hope the declining numbers add up to stronger job gains this year. and finally if you can't get enough of charlie sheen, you are not alone. at the actor set a guinness world record for the fastest time to reach 1 million followers on twitter.
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sleen rea sheen reaches the milestone 25:17 after setting up the account. he has tiger blood and adonis dna. >> of course it does. but that's a lech of a number of followers. what does that tell us about charlie? he's still a favorite. >> yeah. i guess so. i mean, go figure. at this point. >> thanks, veronica about. when we come back, family secrets, mer dedith baxter reves the pain she kept hidden behind the scenes. ready to run? is newt gingrich newt gingrich ready to become the first republican to declare for 2012? w ♪ [ female announcer ] wake up to sweetness with honey nut cheerios cereal. kissed with real honey. and the 100% natural whole grain oats can help lower your cholesterol. you are so sweet to me. bee happy. bee healthy. [ ding ] [ in korean ] how may i help you? do you have something for pain?
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from the capitol. good afternoon. >> reporter: good afternoon. how are you doing? >> great. republicans are asking democrats to come up with their own plan. will they? is it possible it will contain anywhere near the $61 billion in cuts that they want? >> reporter: well, one thing i can say for certain, martin, that is most folks up here on capitol hill will agree they won't come near the $61 billion in cuts that republicans, the house, desire vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, harry reid, nancy pelosi, they're peck expected to see where the line in the sand would be drawn where democrats could agree to in terms of cutter on the current fiscal year 2011 budget. nancy pelosi, earlier today, house mine north leader, was adamant she would not offer any type of number new york specific number, but made it known that she's not want to see massive cuts to education, grants, things like the women's, infants
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and children nutritional program. so they're going to have to figure out some sort of agreement in the next 14 days so you don't see types of possible government shutdowns, one that we were talking about all of last week, martin. >> luke russert on capitol hill, thanks so much. nine senators voted against the two-week funding bill to keep the government running. one of them was bernie sanders, independent senator from vermont, who took to the floor to lambaste republicans for what he sees as blatant hypocrisy. >> it is morally wrong and economically bad policy to balance the budget on the backs of those people who are already hurting. when it came to giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest people in this country, i didn't hear my republican friends say, gee, we can't do that, because it's going to drive up the deficit. >> during a news conference at the white house today, the president didn't say anything
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about the budget. but earlier in the day, republican eric cantor of virginia said he didn't hold out much hope when vice president biden meets republicans later today. >> it seems that harry reid and the vice president will come forward with approximately $40 billion in cuts. that's not cuts. that's the status quo. that has been the position that harry reid has taken all along. and what we say is we need to cut spend, trim the fat. we need to do what most americans are doing which is to find out how we can do more with less. >> and i'm joins by senator bernie sanders, independent of vermont. good afternoon. >> good to be with you. >> you're the author of this new book entitled "the speech, an historic filibuster on corporate greed and the decline of the middle class." can i ask you, why did you vote against this two-week stopgap measure? do you want to bring the government to a standstill? >> not at all. not at all. it's imperative that we not
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bring the government to a halt. but what we have got to do, when we talk about the budget, is understand that the wealthiest people in this country are becoming wealthier, the middle class is collapsing, and poverty is increasing. and in we are serious, which my republican friends are not, about moving towards deficit reduction in anything that resembles a fair way, part of that equation is to ask the wealthiest people in this country start paying their fair share of taxes rather than giving them huge tax breaks. the idea of cutting back on women, infant and children nutrition programs, headstart, child care, social security administration on one hand, and saying to the richest people in kiss country, here's more tax breaks for you when the top 1% already earns more income than the bottom 50%, is absolutely insane. >> what you just said what you just said, almost mirrors our
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new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. when asked about the best way to reduce the deficit 81% of americans favor a surtax on those earning over $1 million. 78% said eliminate earmarks. 76% want to eliminate defense projects. the pentagon says, it doesn't need -- sorry the pentagon says it doesn't need. 74% said it's time to end subsidies for oil and gas companies. why won't congress simply do what the people want? >> well, what requecan i tell y? this senator believes absolutely -- and i saw that poll, the most significant point you made, the highest number, looking the rich are getting richer. why are you going to cut programs that the middle class and working families need? ask these guys to pay their fair share. by the way the effective tax rate today of the wealthiest in the country is the lowest it's ever been in recorded history in our country.
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so that's the obvious solution. you ask me why? well, of course you know the reason why. who do you think controls the republican party. big money controls republican party. this is where their campaign contributions come from. if i have anything to say about it, i'm going to do everything i can to say, we need to make some cuts. i think there are programs that could be cut. but bottom line is, not to ask the wealthiest people in this country to stop paying their fair share is insane. republicans are saying is way outside of what the average american believes. >> why do you think, therefore, the president's budget completely ignores entitlements? isn't that the biggest area that sacrifices can be made in, that cuts need to be made? >> i think if you're talking about entitlements, you're talking about social security. if you look at that poll, as well, people will say you should not cut social security, and people are right. social security, as you know, has not contributed one nickel
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to the deficit. in fact, social security today has $2.6 trillion surplus can pay out every benefit for the next 27 years. social security is funded by an independent payroll tax, not by the united states treasury. when you talk about medicare, you're talking about something different, serious problems. the issue there is not just medicare, it's health care in general. the question, why in america, despite having 50 million people uninsures today, do we end up spending almost twice as much per capita than any other country on earth? we have a system dom nated by private insurance companies whose function in life is to make as much money as they can. in vermont we're trying to lead the nation in medicare for all single payer system which will cut the amount we spend per person on health care. >> senator bernie sanders, provocative and insightful. thank you for joining us. newt gingrich has had his
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contract with one television news organization suspended. because it appears he plans to run for the white house in 2012. today, at an event in his home state of georgia, gingrich addressed the issue by suggesting he hasn't quite made his decision yet. >> we will look at this very seriously and we will very methodically lay out the framework of what we'll do next. and we think that the key is to have citizens who understand this is going to take a lot of us for a long time working together, and that's why we felt it's very important, with the tenth amendment, to get power back home. >> anna maria cox is the washington correspondent for "gq." why should people consider a man who promised contract with america but couldn't keep the covenant of marriage that he pledges to on two occasions why? >> i'm not sure why people
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should. when i asked democratic consultants and advisors about his possibility of running they didn't clap their hands together but they were happy. he's not a strong candidate, as you say. however, i will say, this is going to be his last chance, if he's ever going to run. he's going to be up in the john mccain ages, if he doesn't run this time. also he's just been coy way too many times. basically since last speaker, there were rumors of him running every four years. this is his last opportunity. >> you're being ageist. >> i'm not ageist so much as the american people are. but i do think that this -- if he wants to do it, this is the time. i look forward to a run. the first time we'd have a science fix fan run for president. it could be interesting. >> before we come to the politics, in personal temples he made an appearance last month and asks about how he can oppose same-sex marriage on moral grounds and yet admit adultery
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at the same time. >> i will be total will i candid. i've had a life on occasion has had problems. i believe in a forgiving god and the american people will decide whether that's their primary concern. >> i don't remember him extending forgiveness to bill clinton. >> he was rough on bill clinton, true. i don't think that's his worst attribute as far as congressman -- a potential candidate goes. he has a very, very conservative history, far to the right of the american people. the same people i talked to about him run, the reason they were gleeful, they felt like with newt gingrich on the stage it moves everybody to the right. you're looking at an entire slate of candidates that would really not be in touch with the vast, vast majority of american people. >> it's interesting, though, because he's been writing on subjects recently in a broad range of areas, for example, he wrote an editorial on prisons and reducing the prison population.
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so he's clearly thinking in a very detailed fashion. >> i find him fascinating, and i would love to maybe take a class from him. but i don't think he's a very good leader, let's say. he is clearly -- he's an interesting person, and i'd like to see him in debates, not just because he's very entertaining. >> thank you, again, for joining us. to the palace now. with 57 days to go before the wedding of prince william and katharine middleton most of the preparations are in order. just today the royal mint is unveiling a five-pound commemorative coin to mark the coming betrothal. we know where the wedding will take place. we know who the best man will be. one detail has yet to emerge. who will make that wedding dress itself? joining us now to shed light on the secret is royal watcher neil shawn, who is in london. gad after noon. >> how are you? >> very well. what do we know about the dress? come on. >> you know, everybody -- this
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is the talking point here in london. and the big thing we can tell you now is, of course, earlier today they launched a new website, kate and william spin-off website endorses by st. james' palace. this is where we're going to find out the style of the dress, who made it, all of that sort of thing through the website. they're taking control more, the royals, and also they're talking for the very first time about streaming through the net the royal wedding. so obviously this is a couple who have far more control than possible sort of previous brides. but as for the dress, it's obviously underwraps. two reasons given. one is because she wants to surprise prince william on the wedding day. but of course, we know the real reason is that some designer will run up, copy it, have it in the shops, maybe the day before. obviously, it's rather difficult for her. we must allow this poor girl one treat on a big day, don't you think? >> you done think we'll ever hear -- you don't think we'll know about the wedding dress
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beforehand? >> we'll have a lot of speculation. but i firmly believe, knowing them quite well, that she will be able to hide this particular look until the very big day. of course we'll see it first here. >> royal watcher neil sean. the clock is ticking on an nfl lockout and we clear the air with a simple request. please, please, let's the nfl fans get what they want. ♪ [ male announcer ] america's beverage companies are working together to put more information right up front. adding new calorie labels to every single can, bottle and pack they produce. so you can make the choice that's right for you. ♪
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alcohol. now a memoir "untied, family fame and flounerring" and joins us now. >> nice to be here. >> we'll come to your book in a moment. but i want to ask you if you're critical or sympathetic of charlie sheen, because like you, he grew up in a show biz family. >> i don't know an awful lot about his family. it's very difficult to watch what's happening right now. it feels like it's watching a train wreck. it's sounds like he feels that he's on top of things and from the sidelines here, anyway, it looks like this is just horrible thing is happening. i see what i would experience as the, you know, the evidence of past addictions and what, you know -- i don't flow anything about his life. i don't want to make assumptions. >> in your book you describe the experience of being mothers by a
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parent who wouldn't allow you to call her mom. >> yes, for her own business reasons. she wanted to be an actress. >> what was the effect of that on you? >> it was devastating. it was terrible. i believe it was for my brothers as well. it was something we never talked. she perceived it was the best way to pursue her career by looking like she didn't have kids. >> you went on and had three failed marriages of your own. >> why, yes, i did. >> you talk about it in your book. do you link your experience in marriage to what happened you as a child? is there a correlation? >> there's a correlation because of not being able to call my mother by motherer and my sense of her not wanting to be my mother, which i think i made up, i don't think that was true, but that was how i experienced it. i developed a belief system that
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told me i was unloved, unlovable, and had no value. consequent consequent consequently, everything i did after that was base the on the belief system and dig indicated the trajectory of my life. that certainly includes the marriages. >> and so, even though you had the audlation of stardom and people talking to you about being a wonderful actor, which is of course what you are, that didn't make up that didn't make up the gap? >> i don't know how that makes it up because, to me, that was like it's very nice, but that's all based on some fantasy of what you see on the screen and you make up about me. that has nothing to do with me. i think that's true. it has nothing to do with me. it's just something i've played. >> you describe in the book your own experience of alcoholism and problems in making relationships. you've seen stars now, like lindsay lohan, britney spears,
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christinaing a ing ing aguiler these problems recently. anything you can give themmed aa advice, having written the book, with considerable perspective, how can they avoid the problems that they seem almost inevitably to get into? >> i'm not a great one for giving advice, but i can say what worked for me. and i think that i can -- i was sober for ten years in a 12-step program, but i didn't change a lot because i hadn't followed what they prescribed. they suggest you do self-examination. take a look at -- we know we have a lot of resentments about things that happened in our past, i against my mother and some ex-husbands but i had never looked at what i brought to the table. what was my part, because i really had seen myself as a victim and there's a lot of ply
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acting out against this victimhood. and until i stopped seeing myself as a victim, nothing in my life was going to change. consequently, after i had been sober ten years but hadn't done much work i had to repeat many of the same mistakes i had made. i wasn't drinking but the behavior hadn't changed. >> i guess, in essence, stop seeing the problem as outside, accept it's an earn teinternal issue. >> i thought someone was going to fix my life. >> meredith baxter, thank you so much. good luck with the book. ready for spring? it's been a long, bitter, cold winter in new york and across almost the entire united states. and that's why i am thrilled that our own meteorologist bill karins brings us this play of the day from "morning joe." i don't want to promise. i'll get myself in trouble doing that. i hope to say today is the last cold, cold day out there.
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it's time now to clear the air and the informal has until this evening, 11:59 p.m. to be precise to thrash out a deal with the players union to prevent a lockout that could potentially jeopardize the start of next season. now yesterday on this show, stephen a. smith showed us exactly what this issue is all about. >> money, we all know that. it's $8.9 billion a year revenue stream that come into the informal, they're the most popular sport in america. >> it may be about money for the franchise owners who spent millions of dollars on players and for new playing arenas. they justifiably want as much as
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possible for subjecting their body to this most promising profession, where three years and done is considered a promising career. but can i make an appeal on easily the largest group of individuals that have never been mentioned in this standoff, the fans. imagine for a moment the life of an individual whose sole outlet for maybe a little bit of drinking and relaxation is centered around this sport. the man who works in a less than inspiring job who lives for the weekend for the team who goes out and does battle on her behalf. the man representing the players wants to get his clients the best deal. wouldn't it be wise and charitable for both sides to think beyond their own pockets and consider those of us who need the game to enliven our lives. wouldn't it be worthwhile for
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both sides to pause and think how much does this sport matter to the people of america? why is it that the five most watched television shows of the year don't involve charlie sheen, they don't even involve the president. they focus on a sport that no other nation on the earth happens to play. now, i guess what i'm really asking for is a little compassion, a little understanding for the fans who make this game what it is, for after all, it's us who pay the bill for both the owners and the players. so, let's clear the air and get this sorted so we can all look forward to september without spoiling the summer with any kind of anxiety. because all we really want is to watch the sport that we love in the midst of some pretty tough times and we don't mind playing -- paying, indeed, for the privilege. thanks so much for watching, we'll be back here tomorrow at 3:00, next up, the smartest take on the nation's economy with the
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♪ welcome to the darker side of green. good afternoon, i'm matt miller in for dylan ratigan. today foreign and -- in libya, gadhafi vowing to fight until the last man, the u.s. trying to talk tough without committing to military action, but who will blink first? on capitol hill, both sides diving into the budget in a bid to stop a government shutdown. and in pro football, owners and players in talks to avoid a shut down. the show starts right now.


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